In honor the playoffs the Wages of Wins Network has a podcast discussing the first round of the playoffs.
Super Stat Team Assemble!
- Mosi Platt from Miami Heat Index
- Dre Alvarez from Nerd Numbers
The podcast has two parts, one for each conference
- Super Stat Team Podcast – The Eastern Conference First Round
- Super Stat Team Podcast – The Western Conference First Round
If you’re interested in more you can also
With that here’s a run down of some links that may make listening more enjoyable.
The Playoffs!
- Alex has his playoff picks up for viewing – Eastern Conference, Western Conference
- Arturo has his playoff picks up for viewing.
- Ian has his playoff picks up for viewing
- Mosi comments on Basketball-References odds a few times.
Super Stat Smackdown
On with the main event. What fun is the playoffs without brackets and picks? In the same as the True Hoop Stat Geek Smackdown, the Wages of Wins Analysts are having a contest to see who can predict the playoffs the best.
The Contestants
- Alex Konkel of Sport Skeptic
- Arturo Galletti of Arturo’s Silly Little Stats
- Ben Gulker of Pistons by the Numbers
- Devin Dignam of NBeh? (Raptors)
- Dre Alvarez of Nerd Numbers
- Ian Levy of Hickory High (Pacers)
- Mosi Platt of the Miami Heat Index
- The contest will have four rounds. At the start of each round each contestant will submit a completed bracket predicting the winner and numbers of games for all remaining playoff series out until the NBA Championship.
- For each series picked correctly the player gets 5 points. For each correct number of games the player gets 2 points.
- If a player does not change their pick for winner in a series from a previous round they get 2 points per round they do not change their pick. If they do not change the pick of the finals winner from the start of the contest they get an extra 4 points in addition to their 2 points per round (8 points total)
- Highest point total wins!
The Predictions
Eastern Conference Quarter Finals
Devin
04/16/2011
Typo – We’ve got a first round matchup between CHI and BOS! BOS should be IND.
Looks good, guys!
alvy
04/16/2011
holy cow!
Some Dude
04/17/2011
Berri already lost Magic in 4. lol
nerdnumbers
04/17/2011
Some Dude,
See that’s the problem with predicting sweeps, you’re proven wrong very quickly if you’re wrong. Me and Mosi tie for most 7 game series predictions (6 each) means we can still be right until the series is over 🙂
I do also like that Los Angeles is the only first round match up out West that was undisputed. I think Chris Paul stealing 1 is the rational for most people picking LAL in 5.
Some Dude
04/17/2011
It’s cuz advanced stat guys still look too general and not specific enough. Orlando is a better team than Atlanta, but Atlanta is a bad matchup for Orlando. Funny, advanced stat guys don’t look into enough advanced stats when it comes to series predictions. Arturo’s numbers put Orlando as a really heavy favorite, while better analysis would show a much more even matchup.
Atlanta’s defense: Weakness is paint defense. Strength is 3 point defense, which Orlando relies on making, and forcing long 2s.
Orlando’s offense: Weakness is paint scoring. Yes, despite Howard, they’re at the bottom of the league. Strength is 3 point shooting.
See a problem? Atlanta defends what Orlando does well best, forces long 2s which Orlando is average at, and then isn’t great at paint defense but Orlando doesn’t convert anyway. predicted result? Orlando will trade 3s for long 2s and a couple paint points. Atlanta wins in this scenario.
Now look at the results today. Orlando took a couple more shots in the paint with an uptick in conversion, took less 3s, making a low percentage, and shot poorly on long 2s (but traded these extra shots for FTs) by Howard, who isn’t a good Ft shooter.
Now for the other side:
Orlando Defense – Weakness is not much, i guess defending the 3. Strength is defending the paint and forcing long 2s.
Atlanta Offense – Weakness is scoring in the pint. Strength is making long 2s.
Again, a problem. Orlando’s strength is useless since Atlanta ignores the paint. Their strength is scoring on long 2s, which Orlando intentionally gives up. The result? Atlanta won the game shooting well on long 2s.
The box score played out exactly as the season shot charts. Another issue is orlando is great at Dreb but Atlanta sucks at Oreb, so nothing gained here. Same in reverse.
All that said, Orlando is the better team with HCA. And I still think they should win the series. But they really way too much on hitting 3s. Atanta, meanwhile, is not nearly as bad as their point differential or WP48 indicates. They have dogged it for half the season knowing that they were not moving up or down in the seedings. They’ve only played hard against teams like Orlando, showing they can win.
Anyone who picked Orlando in 4 wasn’t actually paying attention to what’s going on and just believed the season long generic numbers. Any model built like this will always fail. It’s why I asked if Arturo would throw matchups into his WP48 model earlier this week, which he didn’t in the way I meant.
Sorry it was long, but wanted to get it out. Matchups matter. And it doesn’t just boil down to “Dwight Howard over Collins” and ends. These teams aren’t the same as last year, either. Atlanta is a mediocre team, but they are also a team that will give orlando problems. We’re seeing it play out.
EvanZ
04/19/2011
I picked Orlando in 7, after using the stats from the regular season meetings:
“Obviously, this should be one of the more interesting and unpredictable series. My stats don’t suggest otherwise. The predicted WARP for Orlando is 0.560 vs. 0.473 for Atlanta. Given that Orlando also has home court, that gives them the edge. Top predicted performers are no surprises either: Horford, Johnson, and Smith for Atlanta, and Nelson, Turkoglu, and Howard for Orlando. Horford actually appears to have the statistical advantage against Howard so far this season, which is kind of a surprise.”
Some Dude
04/18/2011
CP3 got his game. 😦
Horrible officiating today all around. Marred a good weekend.
Greyberger
04/17/2011
There’s another typo, where it says Arturo’s silly little stats – Grizzlies in Seven it should say Spurs in six.
arturogalletti
04/17/2011
Grey,
You made me giggle. Damn you! 🙂
reservoirgod
04/18/2011
Arturo:
What do the colors (i.e. green, yellow & red) mean for each pick?
arturogalletti
04/18/2011
RG,
I coded everything for length. So 4 game series gets green, 7 gets red.