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For those who wound up here by mistake
- The Full Projection of every player by adding Nene and adjusting the minutes for the Nuggets
- The Team Win projections
- The comparison to other models
- The comparison to over unders
So here’s the corrected Build after I add in Nene Hilario (go here for the Basics behind it all). There were a lot of factors to consider:
- Projecting veteran player performance (the veteran model)
- Projecting for rookies who played in college (the rookie model).
- Projecting for everyone else using the preseason
- Rosters, Minute allocations and Injuries (wait for it)
- The difference between conferences (see here)
This puts it all together. I did a first simple build (NBA Now Team Rankings take 1) then added some complexity for version #2 (and a Nene-less build v.3).
The Final Build is here.
There are 436 players currently on NBA rosters. I’ve done projection (accounting for age,performance,injuries & depth charts) for 436 players. Every single one.
Some notes:
- Blake Griffin was adjusted to the high end of his projection based on his pre-season performance. Didn’t help the clippers much.
- Durant and Westbrook were projected based on the last 41 games of last year.
- I went high on CP3 minutes, low on Yao minutes based on the Rockets minutes restrictions, low on Oden and Aldridge minutes, I also gave Scalabrine playing time.
Did you know he's now a Bull?
- I used ShamSports combined with ESPN for depth charts. Some teams (I’m looking at you Indiana) was kinda like throwing darts at random.
The full build follows:
The 2010-2011 Win Projection (as of 10/28/10)
The final preseason 2011 projection now looks like this:
As before, Portland is my number one overall seed for the season and yes I am predicting the Wizards to win only ten games. Still shocking I know. The big differences:
Denver improved 8 games to eight seed in the west at the expense of the Rockets,Twolves,Nets,76ers,Blazers,Kings,Raptors and Jazz who all lost one game.
As for the Predictions vs the Lines :
The real change is with the Nuggets, every thing else is still pretty much the same. The Wizards line is still open for those into that sort of thing.
The Awards picks don’t change:
Comparing to other Models
Yesterday I also compared my model to to other models across the Web. I used Basketball Reference set of projections. Some detail on what they did:
- Much like me they did projected numbers for everybody.
- They simulated the schedules thousands of times (2,500 to be exact)
- They build three models
- One based on statistical plus/minus
- One based on Win Shares (using the Simple Projection System method)
- One based on a heavily regressed-to-the-mean version of last year’s Simple Ratings (not a serious model just an experiment to see how the dumbest possible model does think Bobo the monkey)
Today at the request of Chicago Tim I added Basketball Prospectus SCHOENE model.
I put them all in one table with my model and sorted by the avg difference. The result is as follows:
The table shows my model, SCHOENE and the WS and +/- models from Basketball Reference, the absolute difference from their 3 models to mine and finally the average difference between my model and SCHOENE, +/- and WS models. Only 5 teams now show a difference greater than 7 games.
The Nuggets still get killed by playing Harrington and injuries to their bigs (although not as much). The Kings I like because of Dalambert and Cousins (and apparantly so does SCHOENE). The Wizards we’ve covered extensively. Golden State is the home of WP darlings (and SCHOENE likes them too) . My love for the Bulls offseason moves is well documented as well. Portland and Orlando sit on the edge (SCHOENE agrees with me on Orlando and disagrees on Portland). If I look just at my model vs SCHOENE:
I’m more down on the Wizards. My age model is probably different from theirs on the Celts, Lakers , Spurs,Suns and Hawks. My model is also not as high on the lower levels of the East.
You know what? I think this actually turned out well for everyone.

Happy Awesome










Chicago Tim
10/28/2010
I saw your tweets about Derrick Rose. And Scalabrine got 11 minutes. Very depressing. Still, it’s a long season, and maybe when Boozer comes back Rose will defer and Scalabrine will sit. I have a feeling it’s going to be a long first month, though. Also, Noah looked great as usual, and Taj looked much better than in preseason.
arturogalletti
10/28/2010
CT,
I was watching that Bulls game from the view of someone kinda rooting for the Bulls (given my prediction) and Rose just kept making dumb call after dumb call. Yes he’s fast, yes he can score but he just looked confused in the 4th quarter. Pass the ball man!!
That said, Taj looks like a player. I stand by the statement that they looked better with Watson.
Chicago Tim
10/29/2010
And maybe Patrick Beverley will come on board soon.
I’ve decided to adopt the Portland Trail Blazers as my second team. It’s hard to follow them from Chicago, but I think it would be such a great story if they live up to their statistical potential. And they aren’t really competing with Chicago, since it is unlikely that they will meet each other more than twice this year. They can help take the sting off if Chicago disappoints.
arturogalletti
10/29/2010
CT,
I know what you mean about the Blazers. Built the right way.
reservoirgod
10/29/2010
Chicago Tim – I really don’t think Beverley can help an NBA team at this point. If the Bulls are having trouble scoring (which seems to be the case for the last 4 years), Beverley’s putrid offensive output won’t help. Check out my preseason post for Miami – http://miami-heat-index.blogspot.com/2010/10/heat-produced-miami-is-udonis-haslems.html.
I think Beverley’s preseason output may have been the result of what Kenny Smith likes to call “looting in a riot.”
Chicago Tim
10/29/2010
Thanks for the caution about Beverley. The Bulls could also wait and see if Ishmael Smith becomes available after Houston finally picks up Erick Dampier. He’s apparently has played well for Houston:
http://www.thedreamshake.com/2010/10/13/1748929/just-who-is-ishmael-smith
But it’s unclear whether he will be cut:
http://www.thedreamshake.com/2010/10/29/1781352/erick-dampier-to-sign-with-rockets
JOSH
11/04/2010
Would you be able to alter this to predict game totals?
arturogalletti
11/04/2010
Josh,

I thought this:
covered it. You wanted something else?
JOSH
11/04/2010
I love it. I am talking about individual games on a night by night basis. Does this have the capability to predict that?
arturogalletti
11/04/2010
Josh,
For shame, haven’t you been reading all the posts?
http://arturogalletti.wordpress.com/2010/11/01/nba-now-rankings-week-1-including-updated-wp-thru-1031/
I make no promises.
Strong picks are 78.5% for the week so far, all picks are at 66% so far (14 of 21).